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ヴィンセント・ヴァレンタイン ([personal profile] cloakandclaw) wrote2009-07-21 11:27 pm

[Outpost 12] March 16, 2074 16:43:07

After a mission, one has to take care of things. Personal effects, items of that nature and... so... since his gun did get something of a workout, he... has it disassembled on the table, a 2074 cleaning kit ready and waiting. Cerberus is really just like any other three guns combined, and really only takes three times as long to clean and three times as long to reassemble.

Taking the charm at the end of the chain into his gloved hand, he studies it. If he holds it this way and that, it catches the light and shimmers. He's never felt particularly called to dogs or dog symbolism, but he likes this. He likes that it's attached to his weapon. He likes that maybe one day he'll flatter himself into thinking people equate this with him, but for good reasons. Not yet, though. It's not something he deserves, and so... he goes back to cleaning the gun. If he adjusts the trigger just so, it will be that much faster next time.

If there is a next time.

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-22 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
In so many ways, Jack almost prefers dying to being injured. At least when he dies, no matter how much it hurts (and that varies, depending on just how it happens), it is over. When he wakes up, he is healed. He knows it will not take nearly as long as it should for his shoulder to mend, but he has never taken well to being incapacitated.

Martha means well, and it was sensible to give him a sling, to tell him to try to keep his arm as immobile as possible. It will heal quicker that way. But he's going out, and much as it hurts, he would like to be able to use his left arm if necessary, so he's taken it off.

There are a lot of questions that remain unanswered about last night. A lot of things that he feels he needs to know. He's the head of the Torchwood Institute, and more than that he's a soldier. An officer. And he has been for a very long time. That training dies hard, especially if one keeps using it. And he's been using his military training in one way or another since he first joined the army at 18, millennia from now.

He doesn't like unanswered questions, and he doesn't like not knowing what's happening, and what's happened. So he is seeking out the other person who was out there with him last night, the other person who may be capable of answering some of those questions. Who is, it would seem, far from unfamiliar with these sorts of situations. Vincent.

It's not so very far from Jack's room to Vincent's. When he reaches room 610, he knocks. Vincent may, of course, not be here. But his room seems a good place to start.

"Vincent?"

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-22 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
He's used to assessing places and situations (and, of course, people) quickly and efficiently. This is a room kept in meticulous order, very different from his own, though his was kept tidier when Ianto was there. The blanket covering the mirror get's a moment's notice, but no comment.

He takes the offered chair; there's no need to stand on ceremony, and given that he is under orders to rest, to do so would probably be somewhat foolish.

"Mending. It's not a serious injury, and I heal quickly."

Vincent, at least, is not making any fuss about it. Not like Martha, not like Abby. He didn't expect him to. Vincent seems to him to be much more the sort to dispassionately analyse a situation. That was certainly the impression he gave last night.

It's a useful trait.

"I take it you weren't hurt last night?"

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-22 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
He takes the little vial Vincent holds out to him, but he doesn't drink it. He's gotten used to the fact that his team knows about his immortality and the accelerated healing that comes with it.

The idea of anyone thinking he needs any sort of healing potion is almost amusing.

"I don't really need this. When I said that I heal quickly, I meant it. Impossibly quickly. My shoulder will be healed as though nothing had happened to it in a matter of a day or two."

That is something he would prefer few people knew about him. But the secret is already out, in some way, at least. He hasn't heard his own name or appearance attached to the rumours about a man returning from the dead, but ... well. Among the guests of the hotel, that's not hard to piece together. Not when he was there, in the lobby of the hotel that day, with a bullet hole over his heart and no sign of injury.

He has little hope of being able to keep it secret. If anything, he's surprised that nobody has asked him about it.

"I'm here because I have always found it useful to debrief after a fight." When one's job is to manage a rift in time and space, sometimes debriefing is the thing that gives one the vital piece of information to solve a puzzle. And there is much about what happened last night that is a puzzle.

Not least of all, the things that Vincent did.

There's something in the way he says that none of the survivors will be bothering either Jack or River makes him narrow his eyes and frown.

"What did you do after we left?"

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-22 09:13 pm (UTC)(link)
He's listening with a great deal of care as Vincent speaks, though anyone watching him might well think he were more interested in Vincent's gun, in pieces on the table, and in the way Vincent carefully reassembles it. The gun is not like any he's seen before, and he knows guns. The fact that the gun he carries himself is antique doesn't reflect any lack of interest in weaponry. Just the opposite, in fact.

Anyone who'd seen some of the things in the armoury at Torchwood would know that. And the armoury is his domain.

"Good," he says, nodding. Those are the same sort of things we would have done, with one difference. Had Jack been cleaning up the Import/Export store, the Dragons wouldn't have remembered anything about what happened.

He has only got a limited supply of Retcon here, but to keep River safe, it would have been worth using it.

And if any of them had been left knowing something about events, he'd have made sure it was his name and face they recalled, not Vincent's. Jack has nothing to fear from them.

"It was unwise to draw all their attention to you, even for River's sake. You say you're difficult to kill. But impossible?"

There's no-one it's impossible to kill. No-one except Jack.

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
He nods in acknowledgement. It is, indeed, a directive he's familiar with. One that various leaders of Torchwood, right back to the 19th century, have been eager to ensure he follows. It was always Jack who was sent on the most dangerous of missions, the ones with no hope of survival.

His life is expendable.

He does the same thing now, though there's no directive from anyone but him. He'd die a thousand times over, even if he knew he'd never revive, if it stopped him losing a single member more of his team. Ianto calls that selfless. Jack calls it practical.

"It proves to be the case for everyone until the day it suddenly isn't." Everyone and everything dies in the end. Even shapeshifters with exceptional combat skills.

With one exception.

"I would have had my name associated with it. I truly am impossible to kill."

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
"It's not selfless, it's practical. Sacrifice the life you can most afford to lose. That's a simple directive, too, one I live by."

He's gotten used to being the dispensable one. He didn't win those gallantry awards during the World Wars because he was brave, as such. It was because he put himself in the line of danger, knowing the risk was not the same for him as for the others in his company or squadron. Knowing that he could afford to die.

There's more than a little curiousity in his expression as Vincent takes down the blanket over the mirror. But he doesn't say anything about it; whatever they are, Vincent must have his reasons. Jack knows well enough that there are some things that are intensely private.

"If you really are impossible to kill, it could hardly be anything but complicated."

When things that are supposed to be impossible - like an immortal man, a man who wakes up again every time he dies - happen, it's always complicated.

He stands and walks over to the mirror, stares into its depths for a moment. He, like Vincent, is not what he appears on the surface. The face that looks back out of the mirror at him looks ... 35. Perhaps 40 at the most, when the light is bad and he's tired. It's looked that age for 140 years.

"I should know. My very existence ought to be impossible."

Oh, Rose.

He hopes that she has no idea what she did to him in that moment of well-intentioned compassion.

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 05:46 am (UTC)(link)
Jack turns away from the mirror. There are, it seems, more people here than he would expect with whom he shares some strange sort of affinity. He has, in his time, been an experiment, the plaything of those who ... wished to test the limits of his immortality. Or the limits of his mind.

But his immortality is no such experiment. Perhaps it would be easier to deal with if he thought there had been some sort of purpose to it, rather than just a mistake by a friend who didn't want to see him die.

"No. I'm the result of the actions of a well-meaning but misguided friend. An accident."

And yet, he can never blame her for it. That's just Rose for you. Always so selfless.

He was prepared to die that day. He always expected to die young.

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
Is there comfort in that? He's never found much.

"The only comfort in it is the thought that perhaps she doesn't know what she did to me."

When Rose made him immortal, she had powers beyond those any human should ever have. Beyond those any human could ever control. She'd absorbed some of the power of time itself, and that made her like a goddess. She didn't realise the damage she was doing to him.

He hopes the Doctor never told her she condemned her friend to all of eternity.

"For my part, I hope that your hypothesis is wrong."

There are questions he could ask Vincent. Questions about what happened to him, about who experimented on him. And about what it is that makes him think that he can truly never die. If he doesn't know that for certain, there is some hope for him. There's none for Jack. He used to believe there was, that when he'd done enough or when he'd fulfilled whatever purpose fate had in mind for him that he'd be free.

He'd hoped that facing Abaddon was that purpose. He'd died for three whole days, then. But he'd been wrong. There's no such release for him.

An accident.

"Eternity is not something anyone should have to face."

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-23 08:23 am (UTC)(link)
"Neither do I."

To be brutally honest, the thought terrifies him. There's not much of which that could be said. But Jack has spent so much of the past 140 years hating every moment of his existence, hating Earth, hating himself, that often the thought of just one more day has been too much for him to bear. Let alone the thought of eternity.

He spent so long waiting for the answers to how he got the way he is, to what hope there is for him in the future.

Will I ever be able to die?

He'd hoped that the answer would be different to the one he got.

He's not cut out for immortality.

"Except, perhaps, to take it one day at a time, finding things to make it bearable."

And yet the only things he's ever found to make himself able to cope with what he is are also the things that are going to make it impossible to bear one day. How many more people can he lose before it drives him insane? Perhaps, in a way, being stuck in this place is a good thing for him. It saves him having to see Ianto and Gwen and Tosh die, as they inevitably will. As everyone does.

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Vincent's red eyes studying him are disconcerting, not because of their colour, but because of their intensity. Because of what Vincent might be seeing in his face. Jack averts his gaze and turns away for a moment.

Something twists inside him in disgust. The thought of what Vincent has been through is repulsive to him. And nothing about it moreso than the thought that there have been times when the same could have been done to him.

"God." When he turns around to face Vincent again, back to the wall, his reaction to the mere idea is clear in his voice. And his expression.

"The only thing surprising about that is that you have any sanity left at all."

And yet ... as Jack himself knows, when death is not an option, it's remarkable what one can survive. He'd been sure, at the time, that what the Master did to him would destroy him. And, for a while, it did. But he is recovering.

The Doctor makes much of the resilience of humanity.

Perhaps he's right. But Jack himself ... well, he finds something compelling in Vincent's description of life and death as a tiresome game.

There are times when he almost thinks he can cope with it. He'd ... nearly enjoyed the past months in Cardiff. But he's old and tired, and inevitably, life loses its allure again.

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 05:49 am (UTC)(link)
He leans back against the wall, right hand toying idly with the fingers of his left.

"I already knew about it. That was you on the roof of the hotel."

Apart from being intensely loyal as a lover, Ianto is also a skilled field agent. Once Jack had recovered from dying, the two of them had shared their stories of what had happened. Between what Ianto had seen and what Jack had heard in the city, they had pieced together events and their conclusions had pointed squarely to Vincent. Especially as Jack had already suspected that he was not entirely human.

He tilts his head, just slightly, and now it's Jack who is studying Vincent carefully.

"Is the ability to transform also the result of experimentation?" The words themselves seem perhaps a little callous, even to him. He is not a man to sugar-coat a question unless it's absolutely necessary. And when it is, he sends Gwen to ask it.

There's compassion in his tone, though, and that's more than is often there. Though he wants answers, though he's curious, he also, in some ways, understands that this cannot be easy for Vincent. But the offer's been made.

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
He tries to watch, impassive, with just a frown of concentration on his face. But once again, he can't. He works for Torchwood. He can in no way pretend to be completely innocent of ever having been involved in any sort of experimentation which pushed the boundaries of what anyone else would call ethical.

He'd taken the high moral ground with Copley for just that reason. He's seen too much experimentation, seen too many sentient creatures treated as though their pain didn't matter, to let that bastard get away with what he was doing.

You're involved in alien research, Jack!

Never like this. This is slavery, exploitation, a war crime!


He has no remorse for shooting Copley. None for shutting down that facility.

He looks back at Vincent, and his voice is measured as he speaks.

"And this creature is the source of your immortality and shapeshifting." He takes a deep breath. "I think I'd rather be dead."

He shifts position slightly. Vincent may perhaps take it as a fidget of discomfort. He would not necessarily be wrong to do so. For the first time since he found himself here, he's relieved not to be in Cardiff.

He would hate what he would be duty-bound to do if he ever came across Vincent there.

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-24 07:45 am (UTC)(link)
"So it doesn't just change your form, it completely possesses you." He moves to cross his arms, and a stab of pain from his shoulder reminds him that perhaps the sling would have been a good idea. He winces, just slightly.

"I know of creatures that can possess a person, but not like that." There are shapeshifters, there are creatures that need to possess a body. Usually, the two are mutually exclusive. He shakes his head. Vincent didn't ask for his opinion or expertise. He doesn't know what Jack does back in Cardiff to know that he can.

But the number of things he's hearing here that don't fit with anything he knows or anything that even seems possible is disconcerting to say the least. After all, his ability to know these things has been all that stood between Earth and destruction many times.

"I've never heard anything like it." That's probably no comfort. But then, there's precious little to be had. He can only imagine how or why it happened.

Unfortunately, because of the things he knows, the things he's seen and done, he can imagine. He can perhaps conceive some of what the science might entail, with a sufficiently talented - and ruthless - scientist. But he can't in any way imagine what it must have been like for Vincent, and for that, he's relieved.

There are enough horrors in his imagination already.

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-25 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
It's much easier to watch the armour reassembling itself, to idly contemplate it, than it is to look into Vincent's red eyes as he makes that request. Piece by piece, the armour returns to precisely where it was before Vincent took it off. He finds himself wondering what sort of technology makes it do that.

But for a long time, he remains silent.

In so many ways, it was easier when the decisions were out of his hands. When he was taking orders. Because then, he could rail against the things he was told to do all he wanted. He could shout and fight and argue morality just as well as Gwen does now. Until somebody would remind him that, strictly, according to the rules, his place was in the vaults under observation. And if he didn't do just what he was ordered, that was where he'd go.

In the end, they weren't his decisions to make. Those choices about what was a threat, what wasn't, and what was to be done about it. And, mostly, whatever he thought of the decision, when it was made ... he executed it. Efficiently and ruthlessly. A proper little soldier.

He understands the reasoning so much better now that those decisions are his to make. When the choice is between unleashing a potential alien threat on the world or locking it up and observing it, profiling it, testing it ... he'd come down on the side of the safety of the city he's sworn to protect every time.

"It's not just curiousity," he says at last, "it's what I do."

He's spent so much time lying about himself, about who he is and what he does, that his instinct is to do just that. But confidentiality is not so important here. Its main purpose is to keep the people of Cardiff protected from the things they can't or don't understand. Vincent needs no such protection.

"Back on Earth, my job is to protect humanity from alien threats. Not to experiment -" he draws the line there, for what it's worth "- but to study, profile, and asess."

Now he does look Vincent in the eye. There must be a little of the hardness and steel that Gwen so often rebukes him for in his expression.

"Were this there and then, it would be my duty to do just that."

He doesn't drop his gaze this time.

"But I've been experimented on myself. Sometimes at the hands of the very organisation I work for." He shakes his head.

"I'm not duty-bound here. Unless and until you prove otherwise, I'll take your word."

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-25 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
"The city I live in is built on a rift in time and space. Things fall through from other planets and times. I make sure that anything dangerous is contained and anything useful is salvaged."

There's a little grim satisfaction for Jack in Vincent's acknowledgement that, though Vincent is skilled in combat and host to a force that can do a great deal of damage, Jack would not be an easy adversary to face. He nods in silent recognition of the fact.

His immortality is of great advantage to Torchwood. But it's a relief that the circumstances will probably not eventuate. Vincent would be, at best, a formidable enemy, from what Jack has seen and from Ianto's reports.

He steps forward and picks up the thing Vincent has just put on the table. It appears to be some sort of feather, red and gold. Wherever this Gaia is that Vincent is from, there are many things about it which are foreign to Jack's extensive knowledge and experience.

It's kind of fascinating, in a way.

But Vincent hasn't shown it to him for the sake of his curiousity.

"You want to avoid transforming again."

There may be more trouble ahead for Vincent. Retribution from the Dragons for the damage to them that he took the blame for. And there was never any guarantee that fighting them off once would keep the hotel safe for long.

It's wise to have a contingency plan.

He nods and puts the feather back down.

"I'll do what I can."

And if it gets to the point where Vincent does transform ... he'll do what he can then, too.

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-25 05:44 am (UTC)(link)
"I'd say it's worth a bit." Both to him and to anyone who may find themself fighting alongside him. It's never good to have to fight with one eye on a comrade to make sure that they're not as dangerous to you as the enemy.

He's been in that situation before.

Never having turned on a comrade is more than could be said o Jack, after all. It was not so long ago he shot a woman who'd been his second-in-command dead. Not so long before that he'd held a gun to Ianto's head and come close to shooting. (The thought of what he almost let his anger do that day still haunts him. His only regret about Suzie is letting it get as far as it did, not seeing what she as sooner.)

And though there seem to be a great number of reasons not to, he feels that, should it come to another fight, he can trust Vincent. Chaos ... well, that he'll have to wait and see about.

He watches as the feather and the bottle go back into Vincent's cloak, taking care to note precisely where they are in case he's ever called on to use them.

"I've seen it. Not people transformed, but people possessed who did things they had no control over."

Whatever anyone else might say, he firmly maintains that, all secrecy aside, Retconning Carys Fletcher after she'd killed all those men under possession was merciful. That girl had a long life ahead of her. She shouldn't have to live with that.

"I can well imagine you'd do anything to stop it happening."

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-25 06:37 am (UTC)(link)
"Sufficiently so, unless you have any questions for me."

He has no need to justify himself to anyone, but if Vincent asks, he'll tell him why he left. It was uncharacteristic of him to turn and run in the middle of a battle. He's normally one to stand his ground until the thing is done. And he would have done just that, whatever the end result was, had it not been for that pleading little voice in his head, begging him for Simon.

As it turns out, running for him was the thing that needed to be done.

That's some small relief, but it doesn't make him any more pleased about having left Vincent and River in the thick of things. He remembers well the time when he would have turned and run. When he had not yet learned courage. That is a man he never wants to be again.

"Your actions were strategically sound. Our aim is to protect River." He, however, does not, and he dislikes seeing people put themselves in danger for his sake. People have died that way, people who need not have died. Charisma isn't always a desirable trait.

"But if you ever need backup, let me know." He gives an awkward, one-shouldered shrug. He doubts Vincent will take him up on the offer. But it had to be made.

[identity profile] capngreatcoat.livejournal.com 2009-07-25 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
He allows himself a small, not quite mirthless, smile. There's a lot of truth to Vincent's words. They have much more in common than immortality. It seems that one of those things they share is extensive training from, as Vincent put it, "combat organisations".

It's not so very often that he meets someone who's as hardened a warrior as he is. The two of them appear to make a good team. They would be more than a match for the Dragons.

And as Jack is now without the one person he can always turn to for backup, that's a good thing to know.

It's even better to know that neither of them has anything to fear from death.

It was fortunate the two of them were there. As it turned out, their peculiar abilities were just what the situation required. Aside from both of them being skilled fighters, Vincent's cloak form was able to protect River; Jack's psychic training allowed him to get through to her.

"And you for yours."

And that's really all that needs to be said, so he makes for the door. He pauses on his way out only long enough to give Vincent one last nod.